This post is for documenting my experience of Advanced Project Management Certificate from Stanford University. Stanford Certified Project Manager (SCPM) is a program designed by "The Stanford Center for Professional Development", Stanford University. Many of the folks after finishing their Project Management Professional (PMP) certification (offered by Project Management Institute) keep asking the question, What's next? I found my answer to that in SCPM. Taking this course provides me two immediate advantages
- Getting a advanced project management certificate from the reputed Stanford University, which is recognized across the globe and needs no introduction in terms of its quality of education and backed by Professors, who are industry experienced and gurus in their respective fields.
- Earning the Professional Development Units (PDUs) for maintaining my PMP certification. In order to adhere to PMP's Continuing Certification Requirements (CCR) program, one needs to earn 60 PDUs in order to remain PMP certified.
Let me explain the roadmap to getting Stanford Certified Project Manager (SCPM) certification.
1. Log on to http://scpd.stanford.edu/
2. Next step is a requirement to complete and submit your application form, which would then be processed and accepted. The intent of the process is to verify the prerequisite 3 years of Project Management experience. Its mentioned that it normally takes 3 - 7 working days to process and accept your form. I noticed that possibly if you are PMP certified then you have an edge and application gets processed faster. In my case, I got the approval within one working day.
3. You can finish the 3 required and 3 elective courses in any order but its highly recommeneded to finish "Converting Strategy into Action" & "Leadership for Strategic Execution" first.
4. The courses offered are Required Courses
and Elective Courses
- Project Risk Management
- Leading Effective Teams
- Financial Mastery for Projects
- Designing the Organization for Execution
- Build Winning Stakeholder Commitments
- Managing Without Authority
- Managing Global Initiatives
- The Strategic PMO: Projects to Enterprise
- Leading Change from the Middle
- Mastering the Integrated Program
5. So among the list above, one needs to finish all 3 required courses and any of the 3 elective courses
6. One can do the course either by opting in campus or online. I opted for online. Each course online costs $950 and i planned on doing one course at a time.
7. Once fees is paid, you will be given access to online videos, materials. In order to finish the course one needs to pass a final exam. Pass percentage is 85% and the questions are designed such that one needs to go through the entire material and videos to be able to answer. This is a way to make sure that people are actually going through the course. One is allowed to print and keep the question paper while going the course and keep the answers as they finish. They can then submit the exam online. Last step to formally
complete the course is to submit the Evaluation Form.
8. Your records will be updated in 3 - 7 working days and your certificate for the completed course and also with details on how to gain PDUs in PMI are mailed in 3 - 4 weeks.
9. You can also mail them requesting status update and they are very forthcoming in responding fast and favorably.
10. I finished the 3 required courses and 3 elective courses Project Risk Management, Leading Effective Teams & Financial Mastery for ProjectsI
In addition to what I mentioned above, below is an abstract from the mail that I received from "scpd-customerservice@stanford.edu"
1. Your mystanfordconnection profile will be
updated within 10-15 business days; the course will move from the "enrolled"
section to the "completed" section on the "my course
records" page. A "P" grade reflects that you have passed the
course.
2. A course completion certificate containing
the Stanford seal and the relevant PMI ID number (to claim PDUs) will be
generated and sent to the preferred address listed in your mystanfordconnection
profile within 2-3 weeks.
3. If you elected and paid for the CEU/Letter
Grade/Transcript this document will be processed by the Continuing Studies
department within 3-4 weeks. Please note that according to federal guidelines,
official transcripts must be sent to a home address. If your profile does not
include a home address, your transcript will not be sent.
4. If this is your sixth and final course in
the program, you are eligible to receive your Stanford Certified Project
Manager Credential. Upon verification that you have successfully completed the
curriculum requirements, your final credential will be sent to the preferred
address listed in your mystanfordconnection on file. Please allow 2-3 weeks for
receipt.
5. In order to protect the integrity of the
certificates and transcripts, no electronic form of course completion
verification is available. If you require immediate proof of your course
completion, a printout of your test score notification page is the best
alternative.To answer the question regarding exams. You can take the exam for
any of the classes as many times as needed to pass with 85% or better. We do
not however give out the correct or incorrect answers to exam questions.
And for all those interested please find below the scanned copy of SCPM certification
hello sridhar
ReplyDeleteyou were the biggest inspiration when i prepared for the PMP , i used your notes ( 30,000 feet as in flight reading on my journey to the exam also ).
I intend to pursue scpm certification also like you ( i got to know of the same recently about a month back ) , hope i can meet with success and as usual pls support me in this quest , incidentally my mother tongue is also telugu but i hail from bangalore. thanks & keep in touch.
I am currently pursuing my RMP certification though.
Thank you Bhasker. I appreciate your kind words and I am happy to be of any help. Do let me know if you have questions regarding SCPM and that I can answer for you.
ReplyDeleteAll the best for your PMI-RMP certification. I too hope to get my hands on it soon.
-Sridhar
Hey Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGood to see that you have compiled all the information in a single post.
Unfortunately I could not trace your post in my earlier search regarding SCPM and I had to take the long route of reading complete information from Stanford site and it needed a phone call for clarifications.
One more point you can add in your next post/update would be about current/ex student community where new students can get assistance for resources, hints, etc. Ex: SAPM group in www.linkedin.com- Srinath
Hi Sridhar
ReplyDeleteHow much time it took for you to finish all the 6 courses. I finished my PMP last year and presently working towards my CISA exam in June. SCPM seems to be interesting. When did you start and when did u finish ?
Srini
Srinath
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by. Honestly I have not done too much digging into any groups but the group that you mentioned, I did join the group.
I can try answering any questions if you have.
Srini
ReplyDeleteI was able to finish all 6 courses in 15 days time. It requires some effort since each course approximately takes anywhere between 15 - 20 hours. For me time to finish was a constraint and pushed myself to complete. But the best part is that Videos are accessible for 90 days after you register and accessible even after you pass the exam. So in case you want to refer back to them, you can do that. I can say one thing for sure and that is the course is worth every cent. Stanford does not really need an endorsement from me but the Professors are industry experts and consultants to some of the industry leaders (CEOs, COOs, Managers) so you actually learn from the Gurus.
Let me know if you have further questions and I will be happy to answer them for you
Congratulation.
ReplyDeleteCongratulation for the certification. I wish you best of luck for future.
ReplyDeleteAppreciate your wishes Preeti. I wish you the same
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar
ReplyDelete16 days you finished entire course, Unbeleivable, I m sure you must have put lot of effort into that. How r the module exams like, r they easy or really tough. I have in my mind to join this, but i have some other commitments as of now. Last year i finished my MBA and PMP. But i think you will be an inspiration for me to go ahead and do this course in the near future.
Srini
ReplyDeleteI will feel happy to help in any way. To answer your questions, well it definitely requires a commitment to finish all 6 courses in a short period but if you already are into Project/Program Management and handle likewise responsibilities and perform roles, then it is so much easier for you to relate, understand & digest things faster. This is the best part about professional courses since you do them while having practical and real time experience and easier to go through them.
Now regarding the quality of questions. Well there would be 60 questions and you need to get 85% above to pass. Questions are designed such that you need to go through the entire materials and videos to be able to answer. Its not like you can skip any thing and still able to answer. This is not possible since questions are very specific to certain points discussed in the class. They may be passing comments or something for which you would need to understand the underlying meanings. Bottom line is that you need to be all ears for what is being discussed and told in the class to be able to find answers. Some questions are definitely straight forward, the answers of which you can find it in material provided but they alone will not be sufficient to get 85% +. So as I had mentioned in the blog posting above that its recommended that you keep the print out of the questions and answer them as you go along the course. Remember you will never be told the right answer so even if you attempt giving the exams n number of times, you still would need to get them right.
Let me know if you have further questions and wishing you all the best for your future endeavors.
Thanks sridhar for all that information. I shall bother you if i think of doing the course in the near future. As of now I m writing my CISA next month.
ReplyDeleteSrini
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI'm taking the PMP classes and I was told that you've memorized and posted a list of PMP exam questions on this site.
Please point me to the link please.
Thanks.
Soyab
Soyab
ReplyDeleteYou can find PMP related links in my older posts. Anyways for your sake I am including the links
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/lessons-learned-journey-to-project_03.html
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/for-pmp-some-more-useful-links-having.html
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-notes-on-pmp.html
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-notes-on-pmp-formulas.html
All the best for your PMP exam
-Sridhar
Soyab
ReplyDeleteAfter going through your post again, I realized that you actually are under the impression that I have shared PMP exam questions. Well thats not the case. We are not supposed to share actual questions asked in PMP exam and it is unethical. What I have shared are links for sites that have sample questions. Hope the links help
Hi Sridhar, Thanks for the incredible info. Question for you, Do you think doing my SCPM would be helful in anyways for doing my PMP. Consider me naive and help me out. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThank you for stopping by Alison. My experience of doing SCPM tells me that doing PMP certification first makes more sense. SCPM is supposedly advanced project management course that would compliment and build over the knowledge you have gained after finishing PMP. Please note that having PMP is not a must to do SCPM but it definitely helps. Putting it in another way, there is not much covered in SCPM that would help you in your PMP certification. Let me know if there are further questions
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the valuable info. I'm a PMP and interested in doing SCPM.I've few questions. I know the online version of the course is around $900/subjecte.Does it include exam cost also? Can we take ( retake) exams without paying any exam fee?
Also how tough ( or easy ) to clear these exams, especially compare to PMP?
Regards,
Manoj
Manoj
ReplyDeleteYou can find all answers to your questions in what I included but nevertheless let me reiterate for your sake
6. Each course online costs $950
7. Once fees is paid, you will be given access to online videos, materials. In order to finish the course one needs to pass a final exam. Pass percentage is 85% and the questions are designed such that one needs to go through the entire material and videos to be able to answer.
To answer the question regarding exams. You can take the exam for any of the classes as many times as needed to pass with 85% or better. They do not however give out the correct or incorrect answers to exam questions. There is NO fees to take the test. Its all included in $950 per course.
Let me know if there are further questions
Hello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteYour blog is helpful with good information about the Stanford Certification.
I have a MBA and 3 years of PM experience. But, I do not have the 35 hours project management education requirement to be eligible for the PMP exam.
I was planning on enrolling at Stanford to meet the education requirement.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
Nabitha
ReplyDeleteIf the intent is to just get 35 hours project management education requirement to be eligible for the PMP exam then probably taking Stanford might not be the right way. First it would be expensive and secondly it will not help you for PMP exam. SCPM is better to do after you finish PMP and would like to take your knowledge in Project Management to the next level.
I had enrolled for pmpcampus which was like 195$ and got my 35 contact hours. Bonus part is that they included 1320 questions that helped me prepare for the exam. I have shared the same in my previous blog http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/lessons-learned-journey-to-project_03.html
Let me know if you have further questions and good luck
Hi Sridhar
ReplyDeleteI have MS degree in computers and 9+ year of IT experience. Recently I applied for SCPM course and it got approved.
I do not have the PMI certification.
1. Do you think I would need PMI certification after SCPM to be affective?
2. Do employers ask for PMI, even if I SCPM credentials.
Please share your views on this.
Thanks
Anuj
Anuj
ReplyDeleteYou need not be a PMP to go for SCPM. Its just that being a PMP would help you understand certain topics better, which are being covered while doing SCPM courses.
And regarding your question whether "Do employers ask for PMI, even if I SCPM credentials". Well PMI certification definitely has more weightage and universal acceptance than SCPM. SCPM is more like covering advanced topics in Project Management taking to next levels of Program and Portfolio management. Hope this helps and good luck with your SCPM. Let me know if you have further questions
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if you could advice on the PM profession - I have a masters in Computer Science and have been in the technical field for over 10 years. Since the last couple of years I have been involved in customer escalation for high touch customers. And the PM profession seems a logical progression to my technical career. Considering I am still on H1 and waiting for GC, would you comment on the impression (that I got from a few people) that PM's can be done without in a tough macroeconomic condition. Could you also comment on the progression of a technical to a PM career, where do I start etc?
Really appreciate your input.
Thanks,
Karthik
Karthik
ReplyDeleteI appreciate you asking me for my inputs. Its difficult for me to assess your current situation and the need to make a change. Are you planning to make the move into Project Management because you think thats the next logical step for your growth or you consider PM to be more lucrative or more secured? I have seen that you can be in better bargaining position if you can be techno-managerial in the sense that you bring to table both your technical and managerial experience.
Having said that, it looks like you already in a way are involved in one or more aspects of management. If you would like to understand all other aspects of Project Management then you can try getting familiar with PMI methodologies and processes. There is always an open debate going on whether certifications add any value. Having said that my personal experience has been doing PMP helps one understand standardized practices, tools & techniques to apply PM. After which how one implements those is based upon needs. Then you can expand your knowledge to learn how PM can be applied to various agile methodologies including scrum, XP and lean. Dynamics of PM keep changing and challenge is to adapt to the needs. I understand that I might have left some questions unanswered. Let me know if I can help answering those in my next posts.
Quick question about online PMP prep courses: any tips on finding out which online course is rated best? I'm considering between pmpcampus and pmeducate.
ReplyDeleteThanks in advance.
- Kayan
Kayan
ReplyDeleteI cannot comment on others but I have personal experience with pmpcampus which I found to be good with 1400 plus questions of quality. Other wise there are others which do provide free questions and are referred in pmhub forums
All the best Kayan for your PMP Certification
-Sridhar
Dear Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteCan you advise on how to fill out the application as in what to mention in the questions asked. Kindly shed some light on what information to give.
Uzma
Uzma,
ReplyDeleteAre you referring to SCPM application? I thought the application is fairly straight forward. Do you have any particular question for which you are not able to answer.
Or are you asking where to get application? If thats the case then you can try Stanford Advanced Project Management Brochure (pdf) [http://scpd.stanford.edu/resources/pdf/SCPD_SAPMBrochure.pdf], which has all the necessary and sufficient information
Sridhar:
ReplyDeleteDo you suggest any sequence for these courses? like by doing Converting Strategy into Action first will help when you prepare for leverging the customer relationship.
What kind of course material is available for dowonload? is that the same like online course.
When can we give exam and how it is conducted?
Do we have any forum where our course related queries are answered or discussed?
Thanks,
Sadashiv
Sadashiv,
ReplyDeleteLet me see if I can help with you some answers (Inline)
Question:
Do you suggest any sequence for these courses? like by doing Converting Strategy into Action first will help when you prepare for leverging the customer relationship.
Response: One needs to finish 3 required courses and 3 elective courses. There is no hard and fast rule of what sequence to follow. But one needs to finish the 3 required courses before opting for elective.
Having said that, its recommended to follow sequence in order to help relate with what is being taught in an order. I have shared the order that I followed in the post above and it definitely made sense for me.
Question:
What kind of course material is available for dowonload? is that the same like online course.
Response:
Course material is extensive enough for the topics that are covered. In couple of courses, books will be mailed to you. Some of the books are technological best sellers and worth.
Question:
When can we give exam and how it is conducted?
Response:
You can give exam whenever you are ready and done with the course. As I had indicated in my post that one can print out the question and answer them as they go along the course
Question:
Do we have any forum where our course related queries are answered or discussed?
Response:
Yes the course also give an option of posting your queries to a forum
Good luck!
-Thanks
Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteWhat is the exam retake policy? How many times can you re-take the exam? Do we need to pay the course fee everytime?
Please comment.
Uzma
Uzma,
ReplyDeleteI had answer to your question in the post itself but sharing again
To answer the question regarding exams. You can take the exam for any of the classes as many times as needed to pass with 85% or better. They do not however give out the correct or incorrect answers to exam questions.
Also there is NO course fee involved again.
All the best
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteMy application was accepted and I am looking forward to registering for the courses now. I am a little concerned about how many courses to register for initially as I am unsure as to how difficult is the exam. Kindly share your experience in regards to the course content, the complexity of the material and the difficulty level of the exam.
Regards
Uzma
Uzma,
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for your application being accepted. Do not worry about the things as you will do just fine. As I had shared in my post, it makes sense to do one course at a time financial wise and also logically. I am sure you are undertaking this course to help you contribute more in your current or future Organization and in actuality improving your stakes. So here is thing. Each of the course is all about practically how to align what is covered, so you will not feel burdened of taking in too much theory and fear of need to memorize all . Its more like you need to digest stuff. And this is not like you study material and then go and give exam. Its 'open' book concept. You take the print out of the question and keep it with you and while going over the course, you will be able to get answers of the questions. Some would be straight forward and no brainier and some where you would need to pay more attention. All in all, this exercise is good because this way you can pay more attention to what is being taught and also in material.
You also would have situations where some of the questions, you could not get answers when taking video sessions, so you can always revisit the videos n # of times and Material is yours to keep.
Let me know if you have further questions Uzma and I assure you that you will do great. Secret of getting ahead and is getting started and you have already taken the starting step towards your goal. All the best
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI am PMP certified and I read that you can earn 120 PDU during conducting the SCPM Program. My receritifcation cycle for ends in 2012 and I am intending to graduate from SCPM in April 2010. Question:
1.) Can I apply all 120 PDUs at one time for PMI CCR (so that the new validity CCR prolongs until 2018)?
2.) Or is it only possible to apply 60PDU (so that new CCR date becomes 2015)? (if this is the case, can I apply the remaining 60PDUs at a later recertification cycle)?
Thx for you help!
-mike
Mike,
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately it does not work like that for PMI.
If you go through http://www.pmi.org/CareerDevelopment/Pages/MaintainYourCredential.aspx, there in 4th point its mentioned that
If you are a PMP or PgMP credential holder, you can transfer up to 20 PDUs earned in the last year of your current cycle.
In other words, this in case If you accrued more than 60 PDUs for your CCR, you can transfer up to 20 PDUs to your next three-year cycle.
So I believe that PDUs which you earn during current cycle (for you expiring in 2012), then among the 120 PDUs gained, you will actually be able to transfer only 20 of them to the cycle ending 2015 and still need to earn 40 more.
I have applied my 120 PDUs and since I earned it last year, (my re certification is due 2011) and I could apply ONLY 60 of those PDUs and rest 60 PDUs are non-transferable to next Cycle. Let me know if you hear anything contrary to what I understood. I tried asking the same question to PMI folks and they copy-pasted what they have in their website.
I am sorry to disappoint you but I guess thats how PMI wants to ensure that people keep the credential of PMP by actually doing PDUs in current cycle and not do at once in one cycle and apply for the future cycles.
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI just got accepted and very excited. I have same concern about how many courses should I take at first time. Any recommendation ? I have no problem paying altogether but I may not find so much time to study due to full time work as a Consultant.
Thanks man... and you are doing a great favor to us all..
Appreciate it..
Mike,
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for getting through the application process and thank you for asking my inputs.
Regarding the question on how many courses to take at a time, well its more logical than financial in my view. One course at a time would help you concentrate on one subject and would give you the pace without feeling the pressure of enrolling for all at once and trying to juggle between them. Its highly recommended that we do one at a time and also follow a logical order of courses so that you can easily relate with the topics being covered in a kind of 'sequential' order especially for the mandatory ones.
Let me know if I can help answering further questions.
Thank you for your kind words. I am trying to do my bit for what I got from others. All the best Mike and I am sure you will appreciate what you learn.
I thought saimilar to what you just said but I wanted to hear from you..
ReplyDeleteI have started and I am very thrilled doing it.
Thanks
Great Mike. All the very best and I am sure you will find this endeavor highly beneficial both from knowledge perspective as well as personal/professional growth wise.
ReplyDeleteDo let me know if I can be of any help during the course
-Sridhar
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteHave you considered going to the campus vs. doing it online difference? I mean, does it make any difference? I know there is about $300 difference, but I saw that there is a group discount option for a group of five enrolling together. I am not sure what the discount would be, but just wondering if you have considered that and then opted for online course.
Kumar,
ReplyDeleteHonestly I never considered doing the course in campus because of time and location constraints. What mainly motivated me to go for SCPM, was its flexibility of doing it at your own pace and also convenience of going through the courses online, anytime & anywhere. On top of it, I can go through the sessions n number of times and concentrate on topic(s) that interest me the most.
Having said that, I do agree that taking the course @ campus is definitely having its plus points. Sessions are interactive and also you can develop networking with like minded professionals.
Let me know if I can help answering further questions Kumar.
Hello Sridhar!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all,
Thank you so much for all the valuable information.
I have the following questions for you:
1-Since I live abroad, do I need to be a resident in the US to register?
2-Do I fulfill the prerequisite of 3 years Project Management experience?
(I have an MIS bachelor degree from a state university in the US.
I am also the CEO of my company since 5 years (database development and SAAS.)
3- Do they ask for any proof of experience?
4-Are we supposed to pay all the fees before getting accepted?
5-Can I register for the Advanced Computer Security Certificate at the same time?
Or do I need to complete SCPM before?
6-Can we get certified at Stanford in different programs?
Thank you Stephanie for stopping by and I am happy that you found what I shared, valuable. Let me see if I can answer your questions
ReplyDelete1-Since I live abroad, do I need to be a resident in the US to register?
I do not think so. I think that's the purpose of doing this course online, which is to eliminate geographical limitations. They mention in their FAQs (http://apm.stanford.edu/faq.htm), "Online courses are available anytime, from any Internet connection." So you do not need to be US resident in my opinion.
2-Do I fulfill the prerequisite of 3 years Project Management experience?
I think that's the prerequisite, which says
Applicants need a bachelor's degree,a minimum of three to five years of experience managing projects,and may need to complete
the Project Management Mastery course online to satisfy admission
requirements.
Since I am PMP, I was not asked any further details.
(I have an MIS bachelor degree from a state university in the US.
I am also the CEO of my company since 5 years (database development and SAAS.)
I personally feel that you being CEO, do have experience more or less relevant to what they are looking for. You can contact them over eMail or phone and usually they are very prompt in answering.
3- Do they ask for any proof of experience?
They actually did not ask for any proof of experience but I do remember documenting all relevant information in application including my PMP details.
4-Are we supposed to pay all the fees before getting accepted?
No. You can pay for each course one at a time.
5-Can I register for the Advanced Computer Security Certificate at the same time? Or do I need to complete SCPM before?
I do not see a limitation to number of courses being done in parallel, so my take is that you can do both at the same time. But you can check with them.
6-Can we get certified at Stanford in different programs?
Yes. They have many programs and you can find details @
http://scpd.stanford.edu/publicViewHome.do?method=load
Let me know if I can help answering further questions Stephanie and here is wishing you all the best for your endeavors
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI am Premkumar,Currently a Technical Lead (J2EE&SOA) with around 7 Years of Experience. I hold a Bachelors Degree in Engineering and i am very interested to do the SAPM Course from Standford,the main objectives for me is to earn a credential from Standford and to step in to the world of project management as a Qualified Professional.
I submitted the application and got selected.
I am sure you will be managing many Tech Leads with my Background. will this Course Really Help candidates with my Background ?
Should i wait for few more Years reach the next level in my Profession and then do this course?
Thanks in Advance Sridhar.
-Thanks
Prem
hi Sridhar, my name is shilpa I found your blog when i was trying to get information on Standfors advanced project management certificate course.. I do not have a project management background. I am more technical oriented.. So will this affect my application acceptance?
ReplyDeleteShilpa,
ReplyDeleteThe prerequisite says, Applicants need a bachelor's degree,a minimum of three to five years of experience managing projects,and may need to complete the Project Management Mastery course online to satisfy admission. Even if you are from technical background, I guess you would have managed project(s) in one form or the other. I would suggest that you document all that in which you think you managed project(s), whether doing scope, cost, schedule, integration, resource, quality, procurement, risk or communication management. Document all the relevant information in the application form and give a try. If in doubt, contact them directly as I have found them to be very forthcoming and quick in responding. Hope this helps. Let me know if there are further questions.
Good luck
HI Sridhar,
ReplyDeletePost is very informative , congratulations !!
I have few questions to you:
1. You have done PMP & SAPMC which one you think will better to do if you have choice to do only one. Please advice me on the basis of Career & knowledge growth.
2. I need to select 6 courses to complete SAPMC , which will cost me around $5700 correct me if I am wrong.
3.I m into SAP - IS Retail , do you suggest that i should go for SAPMC , or any Retail Course .
Does Stanford has any other Retail Diploma courses?
4. If I do my SAPMC first can I retain my PDUs for later and use once i do my PMP?
I know I have asked many questions to you. But after so much of research I got good source of information.
Thanks :)
An Aspirant
Prem,
ReplyDeleteI have found SCPM more relevant for those who are either involved in PMO or Senior Executives who would like to bring in project/program/portfolio management processes at an Organizational level. In my opinion SCPM does not really make sense for a technical person who is not likely in any of the Project/Program/Portfolio/PMO roles. If you want to get to understand management processes and get yourself in Project Management, then CAPM and PMP would be the way to go. Let me know if you have further questions
-Sridhar
Kshama,
ReplyDeleteLet me see if I can answer your questions.
1. You have done PMP & SAPMC which one you think will better to do if you have choice to do only one. Please advice me on the basis of Career & knowledge growth.
I would go with PMP first. SCPM compliments PMP and covers advanced topics. PMP helps me get the standardized management processes and since you get PMP after 4 years of Project Management experience, it helps aligning your experience with the knowledge.
2. I need to select 6 courses to complete SAPMC , which will cost me around $5700 correct me if I am wrong.
Thats correct
3.I m into SAP - IS Retail , do you suggest that i should go for SAPMC , or any Retail Course .
Does Stanford has any other Retail Diploma courses?
You can find by visiting their website http://scpd.stanford.edu/degreeCredit/degreesCertificates.jsp or mail/call them. They are very responsive
4. If I do my SAPMC first can I retain my PDUs for later and use once i do my PMP?
I am afraid but no. You need to have PDUs obtained during the three year cycle after obtaining PMP.
Let me know if you have further questions and all the best
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI am a s/w engineer with 11+ yrs of dev. experience and 4+ yrs of project/tech leadership experience.
I am trying to transition into a
PM role. Do you think SCPM would help
me in this regard? If so, is it
anyway possible to enroll for SCPM
without prior mgmt experience?
Have anyone done the PM mastery
course offered by stanford?
Your reply/suggestion would be highly appreciated.
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI am a s/w engr with 11+ yrs ind. exp and 4+ yrs tech/proj leadership exp. I am trying to transition into
a s/w dev mgr role. Can you suggest
on what course/certificate would
help me in this regard?
Is it possible at all to enroll
for SCPM without prior mgmt exp?
would taking the project mgmt mastery course help getting into scpm?
Please suggest/advice.
Vijay,
ReplyDeleteI believe I have addressed your questions in my earlier answers. Go through them and let me know if you still have unanswered specific questions
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat article and very helpful. How is the application process? Beyond the 200 word description in the online application, do they ask anything? How do they decide who to accept. Any suggestions/guidelines on the application?
-Smita
Smita,
ReplyDeleteI think the review process would be just validating your project/program management experience. If you already are a PMP, then you just get pre approved, if not, then I guess they will just make sure you have the pre-requisite experience. All the best for your endeavor
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing your information. They are very resourceful! I have three years of working experience as a PM and have recently become PMP. I'm considering about completing SCPM as my next goal. I have two questions to you: 1)What did you achieved by taking SCPM cousres? You think it worth the money and effort? 2)Which of three elective courses did you take/d you recommend?
Thanks for your help in advance!
Sky
Sky,
ReplyDeleteI am glad that you found my post useful. Let me see if I can answer your questions
1)What did you achieved by taking SCPM cousres? You think it worth the money and effort?
Honestly its little difficult to answer your question. Let me try elaborating. I have not changed my job since acquiring my PMP (2008), SCPM (2009) and more recently going for PgMP (2010). Since I have not explored the job market, I cannot comment on what value SCPM would provide while job hunting. But I can certainly say one thing, that Stanford has a reputation and doing Advanced Project Management course would definitely give an edge, at least letting one foot into the door. Now why I did SCPM? I wanted to pursue advanced level in Project Management after PMP and was looking at wisely investing my money. After going through various options, talking to different senior people in the field, I decided to go for SCPM. It was also giving me the option of getting 120 PDUs (though expensive option) for keeping my PMP for next cycle. Also SCPM was one time investment. But more than anything else it was the content of the courses and the opportunity to gain knowledge using which I can possibly provide more value to my Organization. It was the opportunity to attend courses, which are taught by industry gurus. I personally believe that experience is inevitable but learning is not. So it all depends on individuals how they put their knowledge to practice and make the most of it. How would someone know whether certain certification is good of bad? Its people like us who have to showcase what we have gained and put the knowledge in use. I see myself gaining knowledge and growing more in confidence to contribute after doing PMP, SCPM and PgMP. I definitely had my moments when others acknowledged my certifications and the knowledge I gained from doing them.
2)Which of three elective courses did you take/d you recommend?
I selected following electives
1. Project Risk Management
2. Leading Effective Teams
3. Financial Mastery for Projects
All the best and let me know if you have further questions
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your quick response. I have started SCPM application yesterday. On the application, I need to describe my current job responsibility. How did you describe it? I pretty much copied/pasted from my resume. Does this have be an essay style?
Thanks!
Sky
Sky,
ReplyDeleteYou can describe your project/program management experience in concise manner and that should be fine. Let me know if you have further questions. I have not heard about anyone's application getting rejected so you should be fine
-Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI submitted the application to the Stanford Wednesday morning. I'm very excited that it's been approved. My goal is to finish the program within this year.Thank you so much for your help!
Sky.
I am happy for you Sky and let me know if you need any inputs. All the very best.
ReplyDelete-Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI am PMP working as Business analyst/PM. I want to do stanford advanced pM certification.Can you plesae help me with the application process.I beleive it has three questions where you need to elaborate on your professional exp.Do you have sample answers which I can refer ..
Also I am going back to India for good.If my application gets approved from here then can I continue my program from India?Appreciate yoir help
Thanks
Trupti
Trupti,
ReplyDeleteSince you are already PMP certified, filling out the application should be easy. You can include the project management experience similar to what you had documented in your PMP application. I am sure you will be fine since you being PMP, your application will be approved.
Regarding your question "can I continue my program from India?". Yes, certainly you can do it from India. Course is online and the purpose is to reach all across the globe. I know few who have done this from India.
Let me know if you have further questions and all the very best Trupti
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI do not have project management experience, but have taken a Project Leadership certificate course. I am considering going a step further and applying for the SCPM. Do you think this would be an effective way to break into the project management field?
Thanks
Heather,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate you asking me. IMHO, SCPM should be pursued by someone who is already having project management experience and would like to take their knowledge to the next level at a more strategic level. Course is 'Advanced Project Management' and covers topics, which are more strategic and helps gear up people to take bigger role in a performing organization. I normally advise anyone who is planning to enter into project management to consider PMI's CAPM (http://www.pmi.org/en/Certification/Certified-Associate-in-Project-Management-CAPM.aspx). Its both inexpensive as well as good stepping stone into project management. SCPM would make more sense and be more relevant when one has basic project management experience and then would like to go to the next level like Program Management or Portfolio Management or in PMO or just playing a bigger role.
Let me know if you have further questions.
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing your experience and knowledge of the SAPM. I am currently in the program and planning on taking the risk management course and the finance course. Please share with me more information on these courses regarding content and value/benefit you see as a project manager.
Sharon
Sharon,
ReplyDeleteI found Risk Management course to be good and rich in content especially useful in applying to project, program or portfolio levels.
My intent of taking financial course was to get familiar with financial aspect but I was not able to take a lot as take away's. But then this is my personal take. I would certainly recommend risk management if planning to select an optional. Let me know if you have further questions and all the best to you!
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteWhat a wonderful post you have published. Thank you so much for still answering comments, years after the original posting - this is VERY nice of you.
One question that I do not think has been asked, how much self study time do you estimate for every hour of the 20 hours of instruction?
With only a single exam due for course completion and the ability to work the exam throughout the course learnings, I am going to guess that there is a minimum of study outside of the 20 hours course time.
Can you elaborate on how much serious "course focused" time it took you to complete a course?
Thank you in advance.
Eric
Thank you Eric for the kind words. I am just paying my dues by trying to give back to the community what I got from others.
ReplyDeleteLet me see if I can answer your question. BTW thats a great question. Let me see if I can answer that. There were some courses like 'Risk Management' for which there was recommended book 'Decision Making with Insight' by Sam Savage. So while going through the course, I did spend sometime going over the book. Good part is that all recommended books are mailed to you and cost is included within the course fee. So yes, I did spend some side time going through the prescribed books & materials while undergoing the course. Let me know if you have further questions
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat article. I am working on my PMP certfication right now and looking at doing the online course for SAPM to get my certification. Do you by any chance have the course slides? I would like to look at it if possible before to ascertain the level of education. Please do help if possible
Shyam,
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I cannot share the slides as it would violate the copyright. Moreover just going over the slides will not be enough to judge the course content since there are materials and books also. Let me know if you have questions and I can help answering them. If you are planning for PMP, IMHO finish PMP first and then go for SCPM covering advanced topics in project management.
Hi Sridhar , most of the notes you have posted for the PMP still good for the PMBOK 4th edition. I passed the PMP 2 days back . and planning for SCPM
ReplyDeleteyour blog is really helpful and inspirational.
Regards,Vaibhav
Congratulations Vaibhav for your PMP. I am glad that you found my notes useful. I have a new post sharing PMBOKV4 notes too under http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-notes-on-pmbok-v4.html
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeletequestion on the last step of SCPM course ..
what do you need to fill in the evaluation form (After final exam i do not expect question answer though)
Regards,
Vaibhav.
Vaibhav,
ReplyDeleteThe questions in the evaluation form should be straight forward, asking your feedback on various questions about the quality of course content, course usefulness, suggestions on areas to improve, others.
Do you have any specific question?
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks for providing a detailed steps to the SCPM.
I had a query though -
I read that per course cost is $950. So at the end of the 6 courses do we pay ($950 * 6 = $5700)?
Pls help me understand the pricing part.
Ashish
Ashish,
ReplyDelete$950 * 6 = $5700 is correct. Let me know if you have further questions
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteWhat if I dont have 3 years of PM experience?
Can I still take the course?
Thanks,
Chintan
Chintan,
ReplyDeleteIMHO, SAPM makes sense if you have at least 3 years of PM experience. Only if you have practical experience, you would be able to do justice to the topics covered. Having said that, you might want to send a mail to "scpd-customerservice@stanford.edu" to confirm from them
All the best
-Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteYour blog is great and your responses are very generous and detailed to a maximum..Impressive!
As a current SCPM, I would like to say that your experience with the program could not be any better, You are a great advocate for the certificate. Unfortunately, I find the contents for the courses to be outdated at times and weak. I cannot say that I learned much throughout all 6 courses, nothing practical and most of it is common sense especially for a so-called "advanced" PM.
The only thing it has going for it is the Stanford stamp.
I do however recommend it to friends and peers when asked, but only to enhance their resume and look good.
Once again, your dedication to your blog is great and impressive.
All the best
Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it. Its been couple of years since I finished this course. My experience of going through SAPM were beneficial for me at the time especially helping think strategically, risk management, looking beyond project management and understand program and portfolio management.
ReplyDeleteI realize any course would not be useful if we cannot put theory into practice. Having said that and after going through other credentials, I would say that organizational culture also plays a role in putting what you learn into practice. If its a service oriented organization and delivering services to clients, then there has been a paradigm shift in recent times, when clients are all looking at 'agile' way of getting services delivered. This effects overall managing of various engagements (projects, programs & portfolios) and I would add, possibly new perspective of change control, risk and scope management. As a retrospection, if I do SAPM now in its current content format, I would concur with you.
Dear Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, thanks for all the resources and shared experiences.
I am very interested in this program based on a friend’s recommendation and your thoughts. I hope to start it very soon, perhaps even this month. However, after reading your blog something has caught my attention: I have an MBA degree and 6 years of experience as project manager. Also, I have very strong skills and experience in finance topics. However, I have never taken any PM courses or self studied about it before. Actually, I barely know what the contents of the PMBOK are. You mentioned before that this program could be useful to take the Project Management knowledge to the next level. Nevertheless, I find that course descriptions to not imply for mandatory prior knowledge. I am betting that I will be ok only with my working experience and maybe, if necessary, parallel studying unknown (for me) PM concepts. What do think? Would it be essential to have the PMBOK beside me the whole time or maybe postpone the certificate program to after I get through the PMBOK? Thanks a lot
Luis
Dear Luis,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the kind words. Let me see if I can provide answers to your queries.
You have got practical experience in project management, which suffices more than enough for SAPM's pre requisite requirements. You do not necessarily need to go through any formal project management training or PMBOK or PMP certification for that matter. Your 6 years of practical experience following MBA, is more than enough platform for you to get enrolled into SAPM. Having said that, I would encourage you to go through some reference sites to get familiar with PMI standards defined in PMBOK, which would help you while gong through SAPM courses. Note that this is NOT necessary but good knowledge to have.
You can refer
1. http://www.projectsmart.co.uk/pmbok.html
2. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/applying-pmis-processes-to-it-consulting/1051599
I too have shared some notes under
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-notes-on-pmbok-v4.html and
http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-notes-on-pmp.html
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions
Thanks for posting this info. I have a PhD in engineering and a couple of years of experience as a researcher in national lab / university participating in large projects. I would like to get some management knowledge. Do you think this program would be appropriate for someone with my profile? Is the PhD worth any years of experience (i.e. as a grad I was in charge of several projects myself)?
ReplyDeleteFrom what you stated, it seems that you do have practical experience in project management. I personally think that SAPM's application process is little more relaxed and you should not have any problem in getting through the screening process. If your intent of doing SAPM is to get some management knowledge, then in my opinion, it is relatively on the expensive side. I am assuming that you are looking for project management knowledge. If that's the case, then IMHO, PMI's certifications (CAPM or PMP) should be good starting points. Once done, then SAPM would feel more logical next step.
ReplyDeletehi,
ReplyDeletethanks for your blog.please guide me on following points for my better careear.
my self pradeep,i completed my B.E in computer,2005,i have total 6years experience. i worked as team lead on one project from 2+years and just i passed ITILv3 followed by PMP. Now my position is revised it is SERVICE MANAGER(IT products)on same project for support.and at the same time i handle another project.
my question is:
1.i want to work on higher level for that i passed PMP + but i dont have technical knowledge of product it give any problem to me for my job?its needed to do certification of particular products?if yes which certification is necessary for CA products?(i am considering my self in PMP hallo effect but you tell me what is practical field for better job search)
2.I Confused if current position is best for future or not ?(according to my job profile).
3.project manager and service manager which manager is good for careear and future?and what certification is needed for that?
4.SACP its help me to increase my PDUs but currently i am staying at gulf?so how i will appear for exam in india?is there any course centre or institute?
5. what is opportunities open in india for SAPM certified person?
6.Is it possible to provide your personal email id for future help.
thanks,
pradeepborate2010@gmail.com
Pradeep,
ReplyDeleteYou can do SCPM online so does not matter where in the world are you. Whether SCPM is right for you that entirely depends on how you would like to use the knowledge. All the best
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteWhat is the duration in days for the campus program. Is there any validity to complete online course (SAPM)?
Campus learing is attractive though expensive. I have done PMP and want to choose between SAPM or other certifications like PRINCE2 / ITIL /SIX SIGMA etc.
"Stanford" name definitely adds more weightage to SAPM.
I have 6 + years of IT experience.
Please advice..
I am not sure whats the duration of campus program. You can check the website or send email. There is no validity date to complete the course online. You can do at your own pace and convenience. SAPM does provide value because of Stanford but whether it provides value to you would depend how you market yourself. Let me know if there are more questions
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar.... You are doing a wonderful job with this blog. I am a certified Project manager (PMP) with more than 6 years of Project Management Experience. I have recently moved in the United States ( Seattle,WA) and am looking for a project management job. I want to enhance my job market ( opportunities). Do you think SAPM has the necessary realization in the job market and is considered elite if coupled with PMP since it has the Stanford name attached to it ? My second question is that PMP is very well known but SAPM is not that well known so in your view do employers in US actually value the SAPM program. Thanks in advance and wish my luck in my job hunt !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I have not looked through job sites to confirm if there are any specific weightage for SCPM. There is SAPM specific group in LinkedIn. I would suggest you post this query there. I wish you all the very best for your aspirations. Since most of the SDLC projects/products are now being delivered using Agile, having scrum based certifications might make more sense.
Hi Sridhar. In one of your posts earlier you mentioned something regarding how to market yourself. Since I just moved in USA , how does one market himself/herself here ? Is it the Job sites or recruiters or is it a better approach to contact organizations directly ?
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for your comments on Project Management courses. I recently selected the SCPM program and just this morning I decided to start my own blog on it to motivate others to do the same, make notes and share them with the community.
Thank you for your great work!
I just got my SCPM application accepted. I will blog about my own experiences.
ReplyDeleteI am planning to take a longer period than Sridhar's 15 days to complete the course, but I hope blogging about my experiences can help the community!
I just started, but if you like to share experiences and read about mine, here's the address: http://janrwestra.blogspot.com
Thanks again Sridhar!
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteHi, i am inspired by what i have read. I am thinking of enrolling for a project management course and my search brought me to this site. Let me say a bit about myself. I have about 11yrs commercial banking experience in credit and marketing and for the last two years, i have been working with an international development agency providing capacity building for Micro finance banks in my country, i see the need for me to become a project manager and my Boss has recommended same. am i on the right track?
Nim,
ReplyDeleteI am glad that you found my blog useful and thank you for asking. From your description it seems that you have experience managing tasks and projects. If you are interested in project management and would like to get into the field and looking to get help with standards and universal acceptance, then PMI's certifications is one way to go. CAPM (http://www.pmi.org/Certification/Certified-Associate-in-Project-Management-CAPM.aspx) is a good start and after which PMP (http://www.pmi.org/en/Certification/Project-Management-Professional-PMP.aspx) is more universally recognized. But having said that, if certifications are not what you are interested but would like to get into understanding project management and align it with your work, then you can choose from many blogs, books, white papers and materials out there. PMI's PMBOK is a good to get you familiar with some norms usually used in project management. Let me know if there are further questions and all the very best
-Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks for all your Notes and guidance.I have cleared my PMP examination.
I am IT manager with over 11 years of experience (Oracle E-business).
Next big question is what after PMP .
Can you please guide me on it .
regards
P.Mehta
Congratulations P.Mehta. Well since you just got PMP, in the long run you can plan for PgMP. In the short run, if your org is adapting agile, then you can look for scrum alliance certifications like CSM, CSP, etc.
ReplyDeleteHello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteDo you know how long the application approval process takes? I submitted my application 11 days ago and it's still not approved. I have all of the required experience. My biggest concern is that I was at around 150 words in the experience section. After reviewing my submission, I see they state a minimum of 200 words was required. I hope they don't throw it out because I didn't follow directions to the tee.
Ryan,
ReplyDeleteIts been 3 years since I cleared my SCPM but as far as I recall, my application was reviewed and approved within a week. I would suggest you to contact them over eMail or phone and they usually very prompt in answering. I have not come across anyone whose application has been rejected with having good/requisite PM experience. All the best and I will look forward to hear from you on how it goes
Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your response. On the 9th business day, I did hear back from them. I was short of the 200 word minimum essay required. I have reapplied - "fingers crossed." I hope to hear sometime next week. I'm pretty confident I'll be approved. I appreciate your help. Great site!
Regards,
Ryan
Great news Ryan. I appreciate you sharing with us. All the very best for your endeavors
ReplyDeleteI just got approved a couple of days ago. I look forward to starting this. Great site!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Ryan. We are very happy for you. All the best and thank you for your kind words.
ReplyDeletesridhar,
ReplyDeleteMy appreciations to you are doing a wonderful job here. I got my PMP one year back. I got few questions to you,
1. My application for SAPM was approved more than 6 months back, but did not utilise that during that time due to my commitments. Am i still eligible to go ahead with the courses or do I have to apply again.
2. I have more than 11 years of experience in project controls department in EPC projects. But my education is only Diploma (pursuing graduation by correspondence). I always felt that my job hunt is not giving desired results due to my diploma background. Will SAPM change my possibilities of getting hired ahead of the graduates.
3. You said the courses will be accessible in the net through study videos. what about the study materials? will it be available by on line or will be couriered to me?
regards,
thiru
Thiru,
ReplyDeleteLet me see if I can help answering your questions
#1 You can send a mail/call to confirm with Stanford. I believe you should be fine with your application already confirmed
#2 Its difficult question to answer for sure. Having said that, I always believe in the fact that degree/certification/credential does not have a value on its own, the value is for the person and what matters the most is how the beholder markets it well and makes a good case out of it. Stanford's reputation and its brand quality is renowned and well known. Now how well you market yourself, it depends on you. Your experience and your education, nobody can tell you how to market it as well as you know it already.
#3 Study materials will be available to you to download. You will also receive course books in your postal mail.
Let me know if there are further questions and all the very best
-Sridhar
sridhar,
ReplyDeletethanks very much for your reply. I will start my course from this week
regards,
thiru
Great. All the very best Thiru. Keep us posted on how its going for you
ReplyDeleteGreat Post. I just learned about SCPM and was looking for the info. Nothing was clear until i see your page. After reading this not only i gained full information about SCPM but I have gained confidence in doing and completing it very soon. I have added you to my LinkedIn profile, hope you will accept me.
ReplyDeleteThomas.
Thanks & God Bless You.
Thank you Thomas. I appreciate the comments. All the very best for SCPM and let me know if there are questions
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteI want to apply for this program, I have a BA degree in computer science and Healthcare Administration. I also have a master certificate in IS/IT project management from Villanova, a master certificate in applied project management from villanova as well. I am PMP and ITILV3 Certified and currently taking my LSSGB with Purdue University.
The question is that I am not currently employed by choice but will start work again soon. will I satisfy their questions of current experience and all the other questions in the application that relate to current employer.
kwensi,
ReplyDeleteI do not believe prerequisite mentions anything about having to be employed currently but does consider relevant project management experience. I would suggest to send a mail to them and get clarified. They are usually very prompt at responding
hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteAs for the experience I do have five years experience in Project management. I was referring to questions like
company/organization
How long you've been in your current position
how many projects or programs do you currently manage
how many employees report directly to you
I would check with Stanford Kwensi. When they refer current, you can mention your most recent one. IMHO, intent of the application is to make sure that you have prior PM experience and does not matter if you are employed or not.
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteAfter my PMP , i am looking forward for next Certification.
would PMI-ACP would help me.
I am IT Manager in manufacturing industry in ERP.
Thanks
P.Mehta
P.Mehta,
ReplyDeleteIndustry awareness and demand for Agile is on the continuous rise, so it was not surprising when PMI started PMI-ACP. If you have prerequisite Agile PM experience, then I would suggest go for it.
Hi Sridhar, It is impressive you completed the SCPM in such a short time frame. I myself and completing it now but started with the PRM paper and have to say it is challenging to follow at times. Let alone the exam questions which stump you at times.
ReplyDeleteGood on you!
Thank you for leaving your comments. All the very best to you and I am sure you will be just fine
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteYour blog looks absolutely marvelous, By luck I got this page while I am on Google.
I have completed by PMP certification a year back & Program management courses. I would like to do SCPM, I may need some guidelines from you.
1) How long does it take to complete a course, If I study with hyper-interest, i.e. 2 to 3 hours per day ??
2) I am bit confused on the exam pattern of SCPM, Can i take examination more than once or how it works ??
Thanks for reading post & thanks in advance for you kind reply. If you permit, I would like to shoot out more questions on this (I hope you like that :) )
Regards,
Karthik
Karthik,
ReplyDeleteI am glad that you found the blog useful. If you go through my comments than you can find answers to most of your questions. I am just copy pasting previous answers here
#1 How long it takes for a course to finish?
I was able to finish all 6 courses in 15 days time. It requires some effort since each course approximately takes anywhere between 15 - 20 hours. For me time to finish was a constraint and pushed myself to complete. But the best part is that Videos are accessible for 90 days after you register and accessible even after you pass the exam.
#2 Can I give the exam again?
Yes you can.
Thanks for you reply.... I appreciate you very much !! After sending you comment I scrolled up & read... I got answers for most of my questions..
ReplyDeleteHow many times Can i re-take if any ???
Once again Thank you very much...
Karthik,
ReplyDeleteHow many times Can i re-take if any ???
You can take as many times as you can till you get 85% or better. They do not however give out the correct or incorrect answers to exam questions. There is NO fees to take the test. Its all included in $950 per course.
All the best
Sridhar, Thank you so much for all your great work.
ReplyDeleteI am half of the way to get SCPM. I want to tell everyone here from my experience that don't take it light the exam questions. I mean it is really required to go through all video in details along with reference books to get 85% passing marks. It is not easy to manage full time job and this course together. If anyone have special questions please contact me astrologer@inbox.com
Again, thanks to Sridhar to make this possible.
Hi Sridhar! This is super useful. Could you please post your application? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar...This is Santosh...I was very happy to read all ur earlier posts and gained a lot of information...I recently got my application approved and looking forward to begin the course shortly. i have some questions in my mind and trying not to make any questions repetitive for which we already have answers above :
ReplyDelete1. Is there a place or if you have the list of reference text books for each course ? I just want to have a look at text books before I actually get into the course .
2. also will all books me mailed to us for each course when we enroll ? so no need to hunt for and buy the textbooks ?
3. Any guidelines to keep in mind while selecting electives ? When i spoke to Stanford they say there is no order for courses - we can do the first one 'Converting strategy into action " and then pick anyone ( from required or electives ) ..need help in deciding upon electives - so that I can do more groundwork to see which ones suit best for my profile..
Once again thanks again for all the help Sridhar !!!
Hi Sridhar...I was googling for SCPM..and came across your Blog... Really it is cool and information..and I really appreciate your commitment....you have been answering each and every query ..that to in detail...that is commendable... i liked your thirst for learning...
ReplyDeleteHi Shridhar,
ReplyDeleteAfter working for past three months, I finally completed & earned SAPM certificate. Thank you very much for your help.
Cool Karthik. Congrats and all the very best
ReplyDeleteHi Shridhar,
ReplyDeleteI have several years of practical PM experience and am looking to obtain formal training. I'm not sure the best route to go and have been exploring both SCPM and PMP certificate. Having done both, which would you say would be most beneficial? Would you recommend the PMP first or would the SCPM be good preparation for the PMP? Appreciate your feedback!
Way the trend is, in my opinion present sell-ability of a project manager is now more when you have Agile and certificates associated with Agile as part of your profile. I would personally recommend going for PMI's Agile Certified Practitioner (ACP) certficate. PMP is good and is still the most sought after certificate in project management field. I felt SCPM adds value when you are more playing more strategic role in the Organization like establishing or running PMO or managing large scale strategic programs. Hope this helps and all the very best.
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI am currently working in Project Management field and wanted to do my certification and currently i dont have PMP certification but I applied for SCPM and within 24hrs the application got approved and now I am confused weather to go for PMP or finish SCPM as the application has got approved.Please advice.
Pramod
Pramod,
ReplyDeleteIts your call. As I have suggested to many in my above comments, it makes sense to do PMP first. SCPM makes sense for someone who is into advanced project management and has a role in the organization, which is strategic.
Hello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteAwesome blog. Quick question... once you begin, how long until you must take the exam and finish the course? We will have a newborn and I am not sure how much time will be available. However, right now my company will pay for it, but that program is ending soon. So, ideally I would like to register for 3 courses now (with company money), and then delay finishing them as long as possible. Thoughts?
Regarding the question "once you begin, how long until you must take the exam and finish the course?", answer is it depends on you. After you have been qualified and as you pay the fees for the course, you will have instant access. It requires some effort to clear each course as it approximately takes anywhere between 15 - 20 hours to go through them. For me time to finish was a constraint and pushed myself to complete and finished the entire course in 15 days. But the best part is that Videos are accessible for 90 days after you register and accessible even after you pass the exam. So in case you want to refer back to them, you can do that.
ReplyDeleteLet me know if this helps and if there are further questions
I just completed the 6 courses in 23 days. Your blog was helpful. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHi Sudheer,
DeleteMay I asked what courses did you take? Do you also have already PMP? How many hours do you spend studying each day?
Thanks!
Congratulations Sudheer
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for doing this blog and for continuously giving back. I have a background in Business/Commerce I've managed a few projects and conferences. I heard only people with technical background ( e.g. IT, engineer) would go for these type of certifications. Would someone without science/technical background can benefit from the SAPM? As well, i have not done PMP, do you think it would be a complete waste if I do the SAPM first? And, may I ask how did you study for PMP exam and how long did it take you to complete the PMP?
Thanks so much!
Thi,
ReplyDeleteI have answered most of your questions in my previous comments. Let me quickly reiterate. IMHO, its better to do PMP before SCPM as SCPM is covering more advanced topics.
Project Management is not tied to being technical. You can excel well in PM field coming from non technical background too.
Certifications help get our resumes filtered in. PMP certification has become more of a defacto criteria while considering candidature for PM role.
Hope this helps. Let me know if there are further questions
Hi Sridhar
ReplyDeleteI just got approved for this program. I am unable to start asap till within 2 months. Do you think my application "approval" will still be good at that time and I will be able to still enroll and start classes?
I think you should be fine but its better to be safe than sorry so I would recommend you check by asking SAPM people directly.
ReplyDeleteHello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat to see your blog, the information is really useful and I am planning for applying.
Just to get more understanding about the benefits in job market? Does this certification really helps? Did you get any calls just because of this certification? (I understand the overall exp. is what matters, but still..)
Regards,
Hello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat to see your blog, the information is really useful and I am planning for applying.
Just to get more understanding about the benefits in job market? Does this certification really helps? Did you get any calls just because of this certification? (I know overall exp. still does matters... but still ...)
Regards,
Hello Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat to see your blog, the information is really useful and I am planning for applying.
Just to get more understanding about the benefits in job market? Does this certification really helps? Did you get any calls just because of this certification? (I know overall exp. still does matters... but still ...)
Regards,
Hi Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYes it will be good, I don't see any issues for two months.I got approved beginning of November and started my course end of December. I am a living example. All the Best !!
Hi Sridhar
ReplyDeleteI enrolled in the same course and wonder how many attempts you have to do the exam to pass it?
Congratulation on SAPM certificate.
regards,
Mohammed
Thanks all. I called the school and they confirmed that the "application approval" is valid and good for 1 year, HOWEVER, once you enrol and start, you have 2 years to complete the course. So I was ok and have completed 4 modules as of today. Heading on to #5. Good luck to everyone.
ReplyDeleteHello my friend,
ReplyDeleteI got accepted into the program for Advanced Project Management Certificate. I was wondering though, I am going to opt for an MBA in the Fall of 2013. Do you think its worth it to get a certificate or two along the way?
I am planning on completing the Advanced Project Management Certificate program by the end of the year or sooner.
I just graduated from SJSU with a B.S, in Business Administration & Management degree. I was wondering if an MBA or a few certifications would be the best route to take or all of them?
Thanks,
- Oscar
Hello Oscar,
ReplyDeleteThank you for stopping by and asking. There are debates on value of MBA when compared with value of professional certifications and IMHO MBA is a professional degree and should not be compared with professional certifications. MBA has a value and a place of its own while professional certifications especially in the field of project management including PMP, SCPM, CSM, ACP are becoming de-facto entry points of getting your resume through the door, especially in a competitive market like today.
MBA is definitely going to help you in your career in the long run and as you gain experience, certificates would help. Most of the certificates I have mentioned cannot be obtained or should not be obtained without pre requisite experience otherwise they defeat the very purpose of their value. Knowledge you would gain in your MBA would help you prepare for the real world, help you be prepared to face real time situations, how to work smart in tough situations and lot more. Having MBA would differentiate you from others and as you make in the world of management, based on your interest, you can work your way through certifications. But do not try getting certifications before you gain experience.
All the very best Oscar and we are sure you will do very well
-Sridhar
Dear Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI have from your earlier comments understood that your were able to print the exam questions before taking it. I just started to follow one of the courses but unable to pre-print the exam. Can you please inform how you did it?
Dear Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI have got the answer to my previous question on the exam questions pre-print. Sorry for wasting your time.
With regards
Thats alright. I am glad that you got your answers. All the very best for all your endeavors.
ReplyDeleteThat's abest advanced project management system.
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for your blog, I found very interesting information on it. I am a Civil Engineer with about ten years of international experience, half of it as a PM (I am not a PMP but have read the PMBOK). I was thinking on applying for the SAPM within the next few days and had some doubts:
- Do they provide some complete notes to follow each course? In pdf, that can be downloaded?
- Can we download the videos (I say that because I am currently working in West Arica and internet do not work always properly)?
- How many hours do you think must be dedicated to each course ?
Thanks,
Ivan
Hi Sridhar. First of all i would like to say a big thank you to you for creating this blog. A couple months ago i started reading your blog and went through all the entries here and answered all my questions prior to enrolling into the SCPM program. I took the advice you posted here and all the comments into consideration and I am now half way through the program. 3 classes to go! I was wondering if you had any advice or experience in regards to job advancement or even networking after receiving the SCPM designation.
ReplyDeleteThank you for stopping by and asking for help. Good luck with rest of your course. My advise has always been that as an individual its your responsibility of how well you market yourself to make advances in your carrer and have success stories written. You are the best judge of your current job profile and potential opportunities so choose your course contents well. For instance, if you want to take your profile to be more strategic in the current or next organization then plan your courses accordingly. Stanford is renowned universally so a certification from it definitely adds value to your profile but understand that its your responsibility to market it well. SDLC is now more preferred to be Agile centric but it also needs a long term vision or Organizational strategy defined in clear terms to be successfully executed. As you advance in your career, its you who will fill the shoe of being in that strategic role. Let me know if this helps or you have further questions. Once again all the very best for your endeavors.
ReplyDeleteHi Sri,
ReplyDeleteI just completed all the required courses for the certificate in Dec 2012. Do they mail the certificate like you have in mail or I have to request it?
Congratulations for the successful completion of the course. Yes, you will get your certificate in mail and you can always email them asking about the timelines. I do not remember how much time it took for me but I am pretty sure it was not more than couple of weeks.
ReplyDeleteI am looking for an MS course in Project Management..Any universities in Germany? Where can I get info about them? Please help.
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Sorry Sree I am not familiar with universities in Germany. Having said that, now most of the renowned universities are offering online courses and the value of such certifications are widely accepted. So does not matter which corner of the world you are in, as long as you have connectivity and motivation to do course online, you should be fine
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar, did you get a 1098-T for this course? i.e. does it qualify for the lifetime learning tax credit? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI did not look into getting 1098-T for this course. I will let others confirm if anyone has used
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteGreat Post !
I read you post and can say that this is one of the best if not best.
My application for SCPM has been approved but I am still confused whether MBA in project management would be better choice or SCPM from Standford.
I would really appreciate if you could pen your opinion on this.
Thanks,
Kishore
Thanks for the compliment Kishore. Answer to your question depends on the university you are getting MBA from. My personal opinion is that MBA being a degree is better than a certificate course but having said that, if MBA is from a not so well known University than I would weigh more. Stanford is renowned universally and it's certificate course carries its own weight. Let me know if this helps
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks alot for your response.
I do understand your point and agree with you. I forgot to mention that I am from QA background and wanted to ask you does it matter if you are from Dev/QA background while you consider doing SCPM.
thanks again for you help.
Thanks,
Kishore
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteDo we need to pay fee for all the 6 courses upfront or can we pay as we go along with each course?
Thanks,
You can pay as you go along completing each course. All the best
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar. Thank you for creating this blog and for all the comments you post. I just finished my last class and now i ll bewaiting for the certificate in the mail. Thank you once again for posting all this information. It definitely helped.
ReplyDeleteI am glad you found the blog helpful. Thanks for stopping by and letting us know. All the very best
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the blog, It's very informative.
I think this questions has been answered above, but wanted to know/learn more about various aspects of SCPM.
I have been in dev/architect position for the last 13 years and have undertaken many projects through various life-cycles. have learnt a lot along the way.
I am currently looking for a formal Project Manager Role and wanted to know is PMI really needed for the next level. will SCPM substitute if a job requirement says "PMP will be plus".
I have cleared the application for Stanford last year, but couldn't pursue it , as I was still measuring whether PMP or SCPM?
If PMP , then what do you suggest is the best way to go for the course, Any inputs?
Thanks
RC
Rahul,
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by. We have covered your questions in previous comments but I can nevertheless share my thoughts again. PMP certification has now become the de facto for foraying into the role of project management. PMI is widely known organization for defining project management standards and doing a good job in revising them with changing times (read Agile). IMHO one must go with PMP first before going for SCPM as SCPM is more applicable in covering advanced project management topics (read strategy). When you prepare for PMP, you will end up getting yourself familiar with standards and you can easily map them with your own professional experience in managing projects. I cleared my PMP in 2008 and it was mostly self study as I was mapping PMBOK with my own experience and that helped. Having said that, I did take lot of free practice tests and PMPCampus. You can read more @ http://sridharpeddisetty.blogspot.com/2008/05/lessons-learned-journey-to-project_03.html
I understand that now you have more options available so go to sites like PMHub forums to check what currently people are recommending. All the very best and let me know if there are further questions.
-Sridhar
Thanks Sridhar, for your valuable insight.
DeleteOne more question, I heard the new exam would take place by July 2013 and I believe for that PMBOK 5th edition is the one to go for.
Is that correct, I already have the 4th edition, How much of a change we are looking at?
Also I am trying to connect to PMCampus, to find out if their courses are tailored towards the change in exam and practices.
The site you referred is it PMcampus or pmpcampus, nothing comes out for pmpcampus.com (just the login page).
Thanks again.
Thanks for the helpful insight.
DeleteWanted to ask you one more question. I heard that the exams are changing in the month of June, this year.
I was wondering should i start reading PMBOK 5th edition ,as the book's literature would be catered towards the new set of questions starting June.
Please let me know.
Thanks again.
Hi Sridhar, I find this blog extremely useful. I had completed PMP 3years back & wondering what next (as you pointed out?) I find this SCPM extremely useful & plan to apply soon.
ReplyDeleteHowever I did read a sample of questions & this was not very clear to me - I am from chennai india. Can we take this course remotely w/o trips to US? You mentioned online 20hrs per course, but are tehre any class room sessions on top of that?
Sorry if this was already covered above!
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteI stumbled upon our blog & found it super useful.
The course fee mentioned now on the website is $1095 per course. Does it mean for 6 courses within this certificate program one has to pay $1095*6?
Regards,
Sudip
Thats correct Sudip. Its $1095*6 for entire couse. All the best
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar, Thanks for all the valuable information.
ReplyDeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteUndoubtedly ur blog is superb and full of information.
I have an experience of more than 3 years for managing the project. One of my college suggest me for PMP, while searching on Google I strike with ur informative blog. Being an Btech, MBAian guy what course would be suitable for me to boost up my career??.
Tushar
Tushar,
ReplyDeleteYou should be able to find answers to your queries in my past comments. Anyways just to summarize for your sake, I would recommend that you first try getting hands on experience in managing project(s), if thats what interests you. Once you have the pre-requisite experience, then go for PMP as the standard is changing based on current Agile needs. After that you can decide to go for more strategic credentials like SCPM or PgMP. All the best and do let me know if you have further questions
-Sridhar
Hi Sridhar, first off: great blog!
ReplyDeleteI find myself in the same position as you. As a PMP I am wondering what's next.
I can't find it anymore, but I believe at some point you compared SCPM and PMP. One of the things you mentioned was that even though the requirements for the SCPM list a bachelor's degree, they would evaluate an application on a case by case basis, if a candidate doesn't have one.
Can you please let me know/point me in the right direction as to what that statement is based on?
Also, did you find the SCPM experience worthwhile?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers, Martin
Martin,
DeleteApologize for getting back to you late on this. Regarding your queries, I would speak to the representative directly as they are very receptive and efficient in answering the queries. When I did SCPM in 2009, I remember talking with someone who mentioned the same. Since I had PMP, it was sufficient enough to qualify and none of my other credentials were verified.
Regarding whether SCPM was worthwhile, it depends upon how you market yourself after attaining it. Course was definitely good covering advanced PM topics that exposes one to think more strategically and play a bigger role in an Org. Having said that, one still needs to sell themselves on how being SCPM makes them better. I have not changed my Org. since I obtained SCPM so cannot comment on whether its going to help get better job but within the Org., it certainly helped me to get recognized by my execs and peers.
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your excellent blog.
It is very informative.
I've recently been accepted into SCPM.
I noticed there is a 3 months/90 days time limit in which to complete each course and take the exam.
I have a unpredictable schedule driven by client(s) agenda.
Were you/are you still able to access course material and the tests after the 90 days?
Thank you,
C
I am glad you found the blog informative. Regarding the limit, I believe you can get an extension if requested but having said that, I would encourage you to finish it to make the most out of the course. I understand the busy schedules and unpredictability that comes with it but I personally have benefited by keeping the focus to finish it in a reasonable time frame. All the very best
ReplyDeleteHi how long did it typically take to complete an online SAPM course? how many hours/days? Is it safe to assume it's about 3 days worth of work as the in person courses are 3 days?
ReplyDeleteAlso, how difficult is the online exam? what if you fail the exam getting below the 85% mark, can it be re-taken? If so, how many times?
Thanks
Sridhar your experience and achievement in IT sector motivates to every IT Professional, everyone should be follow the Project management system like you.
ReplyDeleteThank you Sridhar. Appreciate your reply very much.
ReplyDeleteOn inquiry with a SAPM co-odinator I was told as much.
I have a similar questions to the one asked by a person before:
1. Is there a place or if you have the list of reference text books for each course ? I just want to have a look at text books before I actually get into the course.
Like person above I like to get my mind wrapped around the course material before starting the course. This gives me an idea of the length, width and the depth of the course and preps be for the effort and time commitments that follow.
Do you have, or is there a public list of required reference books by course?
I've read "Executing the Strategy" which is a great book and am ready to start the first course.
Please note: I'm not asking for copyrighted material. That would be unethical and immoral.
Thank You,
C
Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteThis blog is really informative. Thank you for posting and helping people.
I have a question. I have an MBA degree and 6 years of IT experience on the whole. In the last 2 years most of the time was spent in managing projects. Am ready now to move forward and sure that I would meet the eligibility critiera for both PMP and SCPM. Can you please suggest me whether I should go for PMP exam or SCPM exam to boost my job opportunities in US. Am planning to complete either one of these certification courses and switch job before end of this year.
I am interested to do this certification course on project management. I want to make my carrier as a project manager. So i think this course will be very helpful for me and can i gather more knowledge. Thanks for sharing this information.
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Hi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteIt is so inspiring reading to your blog and to all that helpful information it would be great if you could please provide your email for further question shall be really thankful to you my email address is taranoberoi2013@gmail.com
Looking forward to hearing from you soon
Thansk & Regards
Taran
Hi
ReplyDeleteA good informativ blog.
Certain questions are really tough. Is there a way to clarify doubts regarding the questions ?
Regards
Tim
Sure. I do believe that a forum was provided to help clarify doubts.
DeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteIs there a recommended / reading list for the "Financial Mastery for Projects" course.
What are your thoughts and your impression of the course?
Did it give you a deeper insight into how upper/senior management looks at portfolios/programs/projects?
Did it help in your day to day job? Did you find it useful?
How was the course presented?
I want to hear your candid thoughts and opinions.
I took the first course - Converting Strategy into Action, and found it very well presented and enjoyed it a lot.
I apologize for getting back to you little late on this. Its been more than 4 years so my memory is not the best but i do remember liking "Financial Mastery for Projects" course. There were some good reference books that were mailed and I personally enjoyed the presentation of the course. Some of the financial theories and calculation logics were well covered and one can map it with the real time usage. Hope this helps
DeleteHi Sridhar,
ReplyDeleteDo you really think this course can help someone professionally who is not PMP ceritified.Do you think by just having this course someone can apply and get selected for Project Manager and Program Management jobs?
Thank you
P
I have addressed this question multiple times in the above comments. Please refer previous comments and if your question is still left unanswered, let me know and I will be glad to help
DeleteHi, Can we take some courses online and some on campus? Is that possible?
ReplyDeleteI am not sure about this and would suggest to reach out to them directly. They are usually very responsive
DeleteI had a question : typically in an org, who owns portfolio management ?
ReplyDeleteIt depends on the Organization, its size and motivation in investment. Normally Portfolio Management is part of Project Management Office (PMO) and in some cases there are Portfolio Managers to manage portfolio of projects and/or programs.
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